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[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: rapa tree vodka sy vs?
[0:00:00] Tree__Beard: sounds good
[0:00:00] Rapatap: ok
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: gotta hurry my voob crashes
[0:00:00] Rapatap: 12212221
[0:00:00] Tree__Beard: rigged
[0:00:00] Rapatap: 12212112
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: hard
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: sy team 1
[0:00:00] Rapatap: sy 1
[0:00:09] <All>[SWG]_RvA_: wew
[0:00:16] <All>vodka_martini: gb?
[0:00:29] [SWG]_RvA_: Initiated vote to save and exit the game.

[0:00:00] vodka_martini: worked now 11
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: what's teams
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: the patch should be whitelisted i dont know why it sometimes get people kicked
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: donno
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: me rva rancor esty?
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: Nga!!
[0:00:00] SY_2min: ok
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: vs vodka sy tree will
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: fuck
[0:00:00] RancorJH: 1
[0:00:00] Tree__Beard: Yeah that seems like a good place to start
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: yeah lets c
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: tree you getting in discord?
[0:00:00] SY_2min: x in
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: if its ice lake again my blood will boil
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: hope it works
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: 9
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: if not will have to sort this out with chris
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: l hf
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: gl
[0:00:05] <All>SY_2min: new gam,e ??
[0:00:05] <All>Lord_WillChene: why?
[0:00:05] <All>[Awing]Raphiel: go
[0:00:05] <All>SY_2min: 1
[0:00:05] <All>[SWG]_RvA_: lol
[0:00:05] [Awing]Raphiel: lmao
[0:00:10] <All>Tree__Beard: i'd restart up to you
[0:01:13] [SWG]_RvA_: hunt?
[0:01:18] [Awing]Raphiel: 2
[0:01:42] [Awing]Raphiel: got sy
[0:02:17] [Awing]Raphiel: td
[0:02:19] [Awing]Raphiel: tf
[0:02:25] [Awing]Raphiel: gonna transport rush
[0:02:43] [MSGA]Esty_22: 11
[0:04:09] [SWG]_RvA_: will
[0:04:35] [MSGA]Esty_22: tREE
[0:06:27] [SWG]_RvA_: theres is hunt actually
[0:06:34] [Awing]Raphiel: 1
[0:09:32] [SWG]_RvA_: tc
[0:09:45] [Awing]Raphiel: im alrdy loading min
[0:11:05] [SWG]_RvA_: any holso
[0:12:01] SY_2min advanced to Tech Level 2.
[0:13:05] Lord_WillChene advanced to Tech Level 2.
[0:13:38] RancorJH advanced to Tech Level 2.
[0:13:52] vodka_martini advanced to Tech Level 2.
[0:14:04] [SWG]_RvA_ advanced to Tech Level 2.
[0:14:53] [Awing]Raphiel advanced to Tech Level 2.
[0:15:14] Tree__Beard advanced to Tech Level 2.
[0:15:26] [MSGA]Esty_22: Hitting tree
[0:17:39] Lord_WillChene advanced to Tech Level 3.
[0:18:06] RancorJH advanced to Tech Level 3.
[0:18:07] vodka_martini advanced to Tech Level 3.
[0:18:16] [MSGA]Esty_22 advanced to Tech Level 2.
[0:18:18] [MSGA]Esty_22: Getting good hits on tree
[0:18:58] [SWG]_RvA_ advanced to Tech Level 3.
[0:19:17] [Awing]Raphiel: hit sy if u can
[0:19:27] [Awing]Raphiel: im up
[0:19:30] RancorJH: kk
[0:19:39] [Awing]Raphiel: he ain
[0:19:51] [MSGA]Esty_22: Great vodka just helped him
[0:21:07] [MSGA]Esty_22: Helm me if you can
[0:21:15] RancorJH: ok
[0:21:17] Tree__Beard advanced to Tech Level 3.
[0:21:24] [MSGA]Esty_22: getting hit by strikes
[0:21:25] [Awing]Raphiel advanced to Tech Level 3.
[0:23:52] [MSGA]Esty_22: I am fine now
[0:24:01] [MSGA]Esty_22: vodka has lots of strikes
[0:25:05] [MSGA]Esty_22: Tb is vulnerable
[0:26:17] [MSGA]Esty_22: NGA!!

[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: juega bien stu
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: i want muh colored flares
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: 9
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: really cant see shit
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: record
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: sy: "sorry phone"
[0:00:00] SY_2min: lol no,
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: 11
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: gl hf
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: 9
[0:00:20] [SWG]_RvA_: gay maps
[0:01:40] [Awing]Raphiel: lure?
[0:01:59] RancorJH: yes
[0:02:19] [Awing]Raphiel: those mine son
[0:03:13] [Awing]Raphiel: dont see lure
[0:03:22] [SWG]_RvA_: me neither
[0:05:45] [Awing]Raphiel: cal wing
[0:06:06] [Awing]Raphiel: 2 nursuries lol
[0:06:14] [SWG]_RvA_: i have 14
[0:06:24] RancorJH: me 10
[0:07:03] [Awing]Raphiel: ill mounty to slow him down
[0:09:29] [SWG]_RvA_: 19 now
[0:09:51] RancorJH: me 16
[0:13:32] [SWG]_RvA_: pocket has tc
[0:13:40] [SWG]_RvA_: did u mounty him
[0:13:46] RancorJH: nono
[0:15:53] [Awing]Raphiel: get cal
[0:16:19] [SWG]_RvA_: whats vodka up to
[0:16:36] [Awing]Raphiel: ill look
[0:16:42] RancorJH: air
[0:16:48] RancorJH: vodka going air
[0:17:00] [SWG]_RvA_: 1
[0:17:27] [SWG]_RvA_: x
[0:17:37] [Awing]Raphiel: he gone
[0:19:16] [SWG]_RvA_: cal 2 ai9r
[0:19:34] [SWG]_RvA_: 1 strike to u
[0:22:26] RancorJH: ty
[0:22:47] [SWG]_RvA_: 1
[0:23:53] [Awing]Raphiel: gettin fucked by mechs
[0:28:42] [SWG]_RvA_: i cant
[0:28:43] [Awing]Raphiel: his air
[0:30:09] [SWG]_RvA_: 2v1 air
[0:30:10] [SWG]_RvA_: hard
[0:32:25] [Awing]Raphiel: strikes coming
[0:35:04] [SWG]_RvA_: up
[0:36:30] RancorJH: strtikes
[0:36:32] [Awing]Raphiel: lots
[0:36:49] [SWG]_RvA_: im 50%
[0:38:41] [Awing]Raphiel: here he comes
[0:42:04] [SWG]_RvA_: such a phaggot
[0:42:39] [Awing]Raphiel: are you good for that or na
[0:42:49] [SWG]_RvA_: i will eventually
[0:45:24] [Awing]Raphiel: so much
[0:58:26] [SWG]_RvA_: sp
[1:00:57] [SWG]_RvA_: this kills
[1:07:31] [Awing]Raphiel: dead
[1:08:05] [SWG]_RvA_: sad
[1:08:33] [Awing]Raphiel: yea nerf maps are very sad
[1:08:42] <All>[Awing]Raphiel: gg
[1:08:50] <All>SY_2min: gg
[1:08:52] <All>vodka_martini: gg
[1:09:47] <All>[SWG]_RvA_: gg

[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: me rva + worst
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: esty?
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: yeah
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: lol
[0:00:00] RancorJH: 68
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: sounds about right
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: sorry I got heated sy
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: lo siento
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: gl hf
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: 1 sec
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: ok
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: was so frustrating lol
[0:00:00] RancorJH: what happened
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: 19
[0:00:00] RancorJH: 57
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: I will tell u later...
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: 9
[0:00:00] RancorJH: cool
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: go?
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: sorry 1 sec
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: setting up in new room
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: my voob might crash
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: if it takes too long
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: unzipping pants
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: 9
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: rip raph
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: ready
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: idk why its doing that
[0:00:00] RancorJH: 64
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: never has
[0:00:00] SY_2min: map ???
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: oh right
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: that wouldve been fun
[0:00:00] SY_2min: lock speed
[0:00:00] SY_2min: record game
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: Sy we cool?
[0:00:00] RancorJH: 11
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: damn I was gonna switch to slow as we start
[0:00:00] [MSGA]Esty_22: estamos bien?
[0:00:00] SY_2min: si
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: 9
[0:00:00] RancorJH: 11
[0:00:00] SY_2min: lol
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: 7
[0:02:20] [SWG]_RvA_: 16
[0:02:48] [Awing]Raphiel: son
[0:02:56] [Awing]Raphiel: i have 0 carb around my base
[0:04:21] [MSGA]Esty_22: 16
[0:09:30] [Awing]Raphiel: x powercores
[0:10:10] [SWG]_RvA_: checking pocket
[0:12:15] [SWG]_RvA_: pocket
[0:12:18] [SWG]_RvA_: no pc tho
[0:15:34] [Awing]Raphiel: i wouldnt bother with him
[0:15:48] [MSGA]Esty_22: who
[0:15:59] [Awing]Raphiel: rancor
[0:16:52] [SWG]_RvA_: geos from pocket
[0:18:25] [Awing]Raphiel: geo
[0:19:23] [SWG]_RvA_: x
[0:19:46] [Awing]Raphiel: im t3 lol
[0:22:18] [Awing]Raphiel: fort
[0:22:56] [Awing]Raphiel: lots geo
[0:24:09] [Awing]Raphiel: e
[0:26:58] <All>SY_2min: sec
[0:26:58] [SWG]_RvA_: so u do need aa after all
[0:26:58] <All>SY_2min: ty go
[0:29:25] [Awing]Raphiel: lol
[0:29:54] [Awing]Raphiel: nowhere to build sad
[0:30:14] [SWG]_RvA_: just move around here
[0:31:18] [SWG]_RvA_: sy has lots of air
[0:32:28] [SWG]_RvA_: no way
[0:35:13] [SWG]_RvA_: here we go
[0:35:23] [Awing]Raphiel: lmao
[0:37:49] [SWG]_RvA_: del
[0:38:21] [MSGA]Esty_22: Need air over there?
[0:38:31] [Awing]Raphiel: na we fine
[0:38:34] [SWG]_RvA_: t4 first son
[0:38:36] [MSGA]Esty_22: k
[0:38:44] [MSGA]Esty_22: already there
[0:38:51] [SWG]_RvA_: power
[0:39:14] [SWG]_RvA_: power up the shield son
[0:39:37] [Awing]Raphiel: trina find where to boom
[0:45:41] [SWG]_RvA_: this map really sucks
[0:45:53] [Awing]Raphiel: how u think i felt
[0:46:10] [Awing]Raphiel: 27 pop
[0:46:11] [SWG]_RvA_: fuck sake
[0:46:14] [Awing]Raphiel: gg?
[0:46:24] [SWG]_RvA_: please kill it
[0:46:33] [MSGA]Esty_22: got it
[0:47:05] [SWG]_RvA_: bring air here
[0:47:47] [Awing]Raphiel: jedi soon prolly
[0:48:11] [SWG]_RvA_: speeder
[0:48:31] [SWG]_RvA_: yep
[0:48:37] [SWG]_RvA_: here we go
[0:48:43] [Awing]Raphiel: lul
[0:49:47] [SWG]_RvA_: air
[0:49:51] [MSGA]Esty_22: I will go jedi
[0:53:03] [Awing]Raphiel: can we just call it
[0:53:15] [SWG]_RvA_: this is funny
[0:53:15] [Awing]Raphiel: 27 pop
[0:53:20] [MSGA]Esty_22: Making bounties
[0:53:35] [Awing]Raphiel: ive been found
[0:55:15] [MSGA]Esty_22: I will make lots of jedi
[0:55:20] [Awing]Raphiel: cant even build prefabs anywhere
[0:55:45] [Awing]Raphiel: clear some trees out
[0:55:53] [SWG]_RvA_: at least im holding here
[0:55:59] [SWG]_RvA_: where
[0:56:23] [Awing]Raphiel: need a bounty here
[0:56:49] [Awing]Raphiel: esty
[0:57:26] [MSGA]Esty_22: where bounty
[0:57:34] [SWG]_RvA_: everywhere tbh
[0:57:57] [MSGA]Esty_22: I got the pummels
[0:58:24] [Awing]Raphiel: mother fucker
[0:58:34] [SWG]_RvA_: cant even deforest in peace
[0:59:07] [MSGA]Esty_22: coming with air
[0:59:18] [SWG]_RvA_: ive been rek
[0:59:41] [Awing]Raphiel: 36 pop
[0:59:51] [MSGA]Esty_22: build back into my base
[1:00:33] [Awing]Raphiel: hope air doesnt find me
[1:01:22] [SWG]_RvA_: airs
[1:01:32] [Awing]Raphiel: what a fucker
[1:01:40] [Awing]Raphiel: of course
[1:02:39] [Awing]Raphiel: kill the rancor
[1:04:58] [Awing]Raphiel: send a few ore if you have
[1:05:07] [SWG]_RvA_: no sp
[1:05:32] [Awing]Raphiel: thats fine i barely have one
[1:06:10] [SWG]_RvA_: keep me safe from air
[1:07:37] [Awing]Raphiel: dont forget that ore
[1:08:54] [SWG]_RvA_: save arty
[1:11:03] [SWG]_RvA_: airs
[1:12:43] [SWG]_RvA_: 1 geo reks
[1:13:24] <All>SY_2min: gg
[1:13:41] [SWG]_RvA_: what a fucker
[1:14:17] [SWG]_RvA_: too many speeder
[1:15:03] [Awing]Raphiel: damn he found me
[1:15:30] <All>[Awing]Raphiel: gg
[1:15:36] <All>vodka_martini: gg
[1:15:41] <All>RancorJH: gg
[1:15:42] <All>[SWG]_RvA_: gg
[1:15:44] <All>[MSGA]Esty_22: gg

[0:00:00] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: because playing a game when your teammates never cooperate is not fun
[0:00:00] <Messenger> Rapatap: Yeah i know
[0:00:00] <Messenger> Rapatap: i konw exactly that's why you wanted that
[0:00:00] K_Rooijackers: Wtf was Cal doing
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: who knows
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: should I do what
[0:00:00] <Messenger> Rapatap: You then stick the enemy team with incompetancy
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: play or watch
[0:00:00] K_Rooijackers: Glad he left
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: watch roo
[0:00:00] <Messenger> Rapatap: Maybe you can understand why I don't want to play that
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: or we could 1v1 and he watch
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: what u wanna do
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: u 1v1
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: im still arguing
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: lol
[0:00:00] K_Rooijackers: lmao
[0:00:00] K_Rooijackers: Ok
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: actually watch him tho rofl
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: dont keep minimizing
[0:00:00] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: I understand that very well
[0:00:02] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: you don't don't want to be challenged
[0:00:39] <Messenger> Rapatap: I don't mind being challenged. I'd play literally almost anything with you and raph split
[0:00:58] <Messenger> Rapatap: I asked to suggest something
[0:01:03] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: so you prefer to neutralise the threat by never allowing better players to execute team strats
[0:02:02] <Messenger> Rapatap: I'd rather have some level of competancy on both teams
[0:02:22] <Messenger> Rapatap: Instead of 2 players ransacking the other 4
[0:02:42] <Messenger> Rapatap: with the other 2 players on your team being irrelevant
[0:02:53] <Messenger> Rapatap: that is not how you balance teams
[0:03:00] <Messenger> Rapatap: for a good game
[0:03:14] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: maybe ask yourself and your buddies why do you lose 2v4 like you said
[0:03:45] <Messenger> Rapatap: we don't nolife this game
[0:04:23] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: me and raph don't either
[0:04:32] <Messenger> Rapatap: And we're just not quite as good yet. Skill requires concerted effort and time investment
[0:04:57] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: bless your naive soul for you have never met true no lifers in swgb
[0:05:03] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: whereas I did
[0:05:06] <Messenger> Rapatap: we don't have the time. We work full time jobs and have a multitude of hobbies and girlfriends, etc.
[0:05:38] <Messenger> Rapatap: hah really, got any storeis?
[0:05:57] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: so we've moved to "get a life" argument
[0:06:09] <Messenger> Rapatap: no
[0:06:14] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: unfortunately it does not work
[0:06:20] <Messenger> Rapatap: I was half joking
[0:06:34] <Messenger> Rapatap: But you do understand my schedule is kinda full
[0:06:42] <Messenger> Rapatap: Tree's is even worse
[0:06:51] <Messenger> Rapatap: that's why he isn't on much
[0:07:25] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: that's cool but what does this have to do with anything
[0:07:43] <Messenger> Rapatap: He's in graduate school for material science and working 50 hours a week at a major industrial reserch facility
[0:08:21] <Messenger> Rapatap: To "git gud" like you are suggesting requires 1.) a concerted effort and 2.) time
[0:08:28] <Messenger> Rapatap: we don't have number 2
[0:08:28] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: we're back at the start: you think you should get special treatment because.. why?
[0:08:34] <Messenger> Rapatap: so that's why we aren't as good
[0:09:00] <Messenger> Rapatap: you asked why we aren't as good as you two
[0:09:07] <Messenger> Rapatap: i just answered lol
[0:09:28] K_Rooijackers advanced to Tech Level 2.
[0:09:40] <Messenger> Rapatap: not saying we're better or that you have no life or anything like that
[0:09:58] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: that's not entirely true though
[0:10:56] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: you could easily improve by a lot if you spent maybe 1 hour a week watching recs
[0:11:34] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: but you evidently never do because every time I'm watching you I see all the same mistakes
[0:11:40] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: over and over again
[0:13:07] [Awing]Raphiel advanced to Tech Level 2.
[0:13:12] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: and BTW me+raph+2 works vs 4 moderate is actually stacked
[0:13:17] K_Rooijackers: t3
[0:13:24] K_Rooijackers: Good?
[0:13:34] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: on US though, not you like you seem to think
[0:13:35] <Messenger> Rapatap: i know
[0:13:45] <Messenger> Rapatap: i don't think we won't win
[0:13:51] <Messenger> Rapatap: i think we could win
[0:14:05] <Messenger> Rapatap: it's just not going to be a good game
[0:14:16] <Messenger> Rapatap: 2 players on your team will be irrelevant
[0:14:22] <Messenger> Rapatap: they won't have much fun
[0:14:48] <Messenger> Rapatap: i care about making the games good
[0:15:16] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: I think at this point you need to provide a specific definition of a "good game"
[0:15:43] K_Rooijackers advanced to Tech Level 3.
[0:16:10] <Messenger> Rapatap: Also you can't just watch something and instantly be able to implement what you see. It still takes time and practice
[0:16:57] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: please answer
[0:17:01] <Messenger> Rapatap: Well a "good game" is one that is balanced and every member of the team can participate. Skill pyramid is roughly even on both sides
[0:17:30] [Awing]Raphiel advanced to Tech Level 3.
[0:18:37] <Messenger> Rapatap: If you have 2 people who essentially don't matter to the game at all, and are irrelevant, they likely won't have a good game because they are irrelevant
[0:18:58] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: so only abstract "skill level" matters, whereas we're going to completely ignore the fact we're playing a _team_ game
[0:19:29] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: but they'd be irrelevant in either team
[0:19:39] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: whats your point
[0:20:01] <Messenger> Rapatap: Well they could fight each other in a 4v4 for example
[0:20:07] <Messenger> Rapatap: if they were on opposite sides
[0:20:17] <Messenger> Rapatap: if they were both wings
[0:20:21] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: what if they aren't
[0:20:37] <Messenger> Rapatap: it's at least a possibility
[0:20:55] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: see how easily your entire argument falls apart
[0:21:12] <Messenger> Rapatap: lay it out for me
[0:21:15] <Messenger> Rapatap: id on't
[0:21:21] <Messenger> Rapatap: don't
[0:22:10] <Messenger> Rapatap: Either 1.) they are definitely irrelevant and will either sit in their base and never get touched, or will die right away
[0:22:17] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: if they don't end up as wings your point about balancing them against each other is irrelevant
[0:22:39] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: what if one is wing, and the other one is pocket?
[0:22:54] <Messenger> Rapatap: or 2.) They could interact with the help of their team, possibly against the other low skill player, in a relatively close fight
[0:23:18] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: you realise the team that gets a bad pocket will struggle much worse than the team that has a bad wing?
[0:23:44] <Messenger> Rapatap: yeah
[0:24:15] <Messenger> Rapatap: I'm just saying at least it's possible they do something more than choice number 1 above
[0:24:31] <Messenger> Rapatap: and they will learn more from it
[0:25:59] <Messenger> Rapatap: even if it's not 100% certain that will happen, it's more likely to happen in my scenario. You can't deny that
[0:26:33] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: ok now that we've established you are willing to sacrifise the enjoyment of two better players for a slim chance of two weak players having some vague "fun" fighting each other
[0:29:47] <Messenger> Rapatap: it's more like giving them a chance to improve, participate, and be led by players who are better
[0:29:52] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: admit it, the only thing you care about is that you realise you have to try a little harder if we're not split
[0:30:00] <Messenger> Rapatap: it's how to be a good leader in anything
[0:31:01] <Messenger> Rapatap: would you rather work a job where 2 experts do everything and ignore you? or a job where the experts guide you along and lead by example
[0:31:03] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: "it's more like giving them a chance to improve, participate, and be led by players who are better" thanks for proving my point lol
[0:33:05] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: and why would our suggestion not be "two noobs led by example"?
[0:33:47] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: that's completely arbitrary assumption made by you to illustrate a vague point
[0:34:15] <Messenger> Rapatap: Would you REALLY offer them advice in the chat window and guide them along?
[0:34:37] <Messenger> Rapatap: Or would you just try the 2v4 and hope for the best
[0:34:50] <Messenger> Rapatap: pretty sure it'd be the latter
[0:35:19] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: they can watch the rec after and learn from it
[0:35:45] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: but who am I talking to, you never watch recs do you
[0:35:51] <Messenger> Rapatap: you don't like helping people out other than telling them they should read and practice on their own time
[0:36:10] <Messenger> Rapatap: I do
[0:36:40] <Messenger> Rapatap: You mean recordings of our games? Or recordings on youtube from liam / others?
[0:36:55] <Messenger> Rapatap: I watch both
[0:37:57] <Messenger> Rapatap: It's just not extremely easy to follow what you do in real-time. It requires muscle memory and practice and time investment
[0:38:08] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: "you don't like helping people out other than telling them they should read and practice on their own time" yeah it's not like me and raph spend hours coaching noobs
[0:38:32] <Messenger> Rapatap: Do you ever play against bots to practice strats in this game?
[0:38:47] <Messenger> Rapatap: Just curious
[0:39:07] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: probably like 3 times in the past 5 years
[0:39:24] <Messenger> Rapatap: Do you spend hours coaching noobs during matches?
[0:39:49] <Messenger> Rapatap: I just see you yell at them lol
[0:39:57] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: we 1v1 them and comment on their mistakes
[0:40:29] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: 1v1s are much better for learning than team games anyway
[0:40:30] <Messenger> Rapatap: what about suggesting things in real-time when they are on your team?
[0:40:42] <Messenger> Rapatap: I agree
[0:40:59] <Messenger> Rapatap: that's how Tree and myself pulled ourselfs up a bit
[0:41:05] <Messenger> Rapatap: 1v1 repeatedly
[0:41:09] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: sorry I'm not Caesar
[0:41:21] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: I can only do so many things at a time
[0:41:24] <Messenger> Rapatap: but Lord won't do it, he hates 1v1's so he's always a bit worse
[0:41:45] <Messenger> Rapatap: Yeah and you said voice chat distracts you a lot
[0:42:06] <Messenger> Rapatap: Well. This game is hard enough to multitask
[0:42:27] <Messenger> Rapatap: You're right
[0:43:11] <Messenger> Rapatap: are you guys not playing a game then?
[0:43:44] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: I also remember 1v1ing a lot with some others to beat liam and brat'
[0:44:01] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: because they'd refuse to split in a team game
[0:44:04] <Messenger> Rapatap: I should really do it more often
[0:44:11] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: sounds familiar isnt it
[0:44:19] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: doesnt*
[0:44:40] <Messenger> Rapatap: Yeah, they were smart enough not to allow bs also
[0:44:46] K_Rooijackers: Are u t4?
[0:44:47] <Messenger> Rapatap: lol
[0:44:53] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: I'm watching them while typing
[0:45:12] <Messenger> Rapatap: ahh
[0:45:34] K_Rooijackers advanced to Tech Level 4.
[0:47:43] <Messenger> Rapatap: we'll be back a bit later and I won't complain as much. Just give me a team that has a chance of winning
[0:47:54] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: if you split us, then we both end up in a situation when the whole team's fate is on you
[0:48:00] <Messenger> Rapatap: Even if it's your stacked ass bullshit
[0:48:19] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: you either beat the other one and win the game for your team or you don't
[0:48:45] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: and at this point, why not play an 1v1?
[0:48:45] [Awing]Raphiel advanced to Tech Level 4.
[0:49:02] <Messenger> Rapatap: well it's 4v4 so your contribution is kind of diluted
[0:49:13] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: hm?
[0:49:24] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: ah I see
[0:49:34] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: well not so much as you might believe
[0:49:56] <Messenger> Rapatap: Depends on what happens
[0:50:17] <Messenger> Rapatap: But it's better than a 2v2 for sure
[0:50:25] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: you and your friends being allergic to chat does not help either
[0:51:21] <Messenger> Rapatap: yeah. Dude idk how you read chat when you have modern 16:9 monitors that are over 30 in big
[0:51:51] <Messenger> Rapatap: the text is tiny and up in the far corner
[0:52:01] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: mine is 16:10 and 27"
[0:52:32] <Messenger> Rapatap: i just need sounds on i guess
[0:52:43] <Messenger> Rapatap: problem is
[0:52:51] <Messenger> Rapatap: you might laugh at this
[0:53:06] K_Rooijackers: Nice time to en
[0:53:09] <Messenger> Rapatap: i'm running Voobly and SWGB through WINE
[0:53:09] K_Rooijackers: end
[0:53:14] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: I don't understand how you manage to play without sound
[0:53:15] K_Rooijackers: gtg eat too
[0:53:17] K_Rooijackers: gg
[0:53:30] <Messenger> Rapatap: and discord crashes all the fucking time on Arch
[0:53:38] [Awing]Raphiel: gg
[0:53:44] <Messenger> Rapatap: so i use discord on my phone
[0:53:50] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: i tried running it through wine a while ago
[0:54:03] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: worked fine from what I could tell
[0:54:10] <Messenger> Rapatap: yeah it works great
[0:54:16] <Messenger> Rapatap: but discord crashes
[0:54:19] [Awing]Raphiel: get out cunt
[0:55:10] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: you may want to buy a sound mixer
[0:55:38] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: to mix down sound from your phone and pc speakers
[0:56:26] <Messenger> Rapatap: that's a good idea
[0:56:42] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: without sound alerts I can totally see how'd you miss the chat lol
[0:56:52] <Messenger> Rapatap: Yeah i know
[0:56:54] <Messenger> Rapatap: it's bad
[0:57:02] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: and a whole bunch of other useful info along with it
[0:57:12] <Messenger> Rapatap: I don't have an excuse other than what i told you
[0:58:04] <Messenger> Rapatap: actually i'm gonna order one right now
[0:58:22] <Messenger> Rapatap: If i play this game this often i may as well give a shit
[0:58:28] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: I had a patch making chat slightly larger
[0:58:33] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: could be of use
[0:59:05] <Messenger> Rapatap: is it possible to run that without "cheat detection" going off?
[0:59:26] <Messenger> Rapatap: or does everyone need to run it
[1:00:02] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: that one would be a local mod
[1:00:34] <Messenger> Rapatap: ah ok
[1:00:50] <Messenger> Rapatap: how many mods did you help create lol
[1:00:52] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: though I'm not sure if voobly framework allows it, will have to check
[1:02:12] <Messenger> [SWG]_RvA_: I work on expanding fronts mod, and I helped a couple mods in AoC community
[1:02:46] <Messenger> Rapatap: There was some sort of editor tool for the .dat files in this game that i used to play around with in 2010 or so. Made custom mods to try to "balance" this game back then among my friends. We only

[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: me rva t1 cal sy t2
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: 121221
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: vodka will random
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: brb sec
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: give us vodka
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: 2
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: u got rva
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: ok
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: vodka t2
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: im not sure about these teas lol
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: teams but whatever lol
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: raphiel is good
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: better than me
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: lets ready up and start please
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: rva
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: top tier
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: im tired probably going to play bad
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: if we even start....
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: im tired too
[0:00:00] vodka_martini: gl hf
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: there we go lol
[0:00:49] [SWG]_RvA_: rebs son
[0:01:16] [Awing]Raphiel: lure?
[0:01:25] [SWG]_RvA_: 2 fal
[0:02:01] [SWG]_RvA_: 2 dews
[0:05:57] [Awing]Raphiel: gonna mounty
[0:06:13] Lord_WillChene: ok
[0:08:41] Lord_WillChene: cal next to me
[0:11:00] [Awing]Raphiel: x
[0:11:05] [Awing]Raphiel: pocket
[0:11:15] [SWG]_RvA_: dont see
[0:11:54] [SWG]_RvA_: sy
[0:11:56] [Awing]Raphiel: fishin
[0:11:58] [Awing]Raphiel: lol
[0:12:57] [Awing]Raphiel: pc ded
[0:13:05] [SWG]_RvA_: gut
[0:13:40] [SWG]_RvA_: kill dew
[0:16:19] [SWG]_RvA_: rebuilding pc
[0:16:23] [SWG]_RvA_: behind med walls
[0:17:15] [Awing]Raphiel: stopped
[0:17:29] [SWG]_RvA_: got spdr
[0:17:53] [Awing]Raphiel: goin up
[0:19:07] Lord_WillChene: cal is vulnerable
[0:26:18] [SWG]_RvA_: k
[0:27:07] Lord_WillChene: ty
[0:31:04] [Awing]Raphiel: u want rewsources
[0:31:10] [SWG]_RvA_: 2
[0:31:17] [Awing]Raphiel: u up?
[0:31:18] [SWG]_RvA_: dont need t4 really
[0:34:27] Lord_WillChene: T$ air
[0:34:28] [Awing]Raphiel: hes so gay lol
[0:34:56] Lord_WillChene: coming to you RVA
[0:35:24] [SWG]_RvA_: up
[0:35:29] [SWG]_RvA_: he won't do much
[0:35:40] [Awing]Raphiel: ill jus sack mine
[0:36:02] [SWG]_RvA_: lol
[0:38:06] Lord_WillChene: help please
[0:39:20] [Awing]Raphiel: need res?
[0:39:27] [SWG]_RvA_: 2
[0:44:42] Lord_WillChene: any chance I can get help?
[0:49:15] Lord_WillChene: help?
[0:52:24] Lord_WillChene: build over here maybe?
[0:53:52] <All>vodka_martini: gg
[0:54:05] Lord_WillChene: well gj

[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: dont play until you arent forcing everyone else to suffer is my suggestion
[0:00:00] MegA_LuZ: 500ping
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: /ping
[0:00:00] MegA_LuZ: 312
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: random land map
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: 1
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: i've got good ping with everyone
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: teams?
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: 1122 2211
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: all around 300 or lower
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: [x] doubt
[0:00:00] Rapatap: same teams basically?
[0:00:00] Rapatap: Mega replaces tek?
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: yeah except we have mega
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: 1
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: nah
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: same team
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: ill send you a screenshot RVA
[0:00:00] Rapatap: didn't we have him?
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: what's your email
[0:00:00] Tree__Beard: wait what
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: go@fuck.yourself
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: 12212211
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: 12212211
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: 12212211
[0:00:00] Rapatap: RvA and Raph vs. Sy and Mega
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: you have same team
[0:00:00] MegA_LuZ: 560 poing
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: haha RVA you're hilarious
[0:00:00] Rapatap: right?
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: we have mega
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: the most hilarious
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: instead of tek
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: 12212211
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: when's your stand up tour in russia?
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: I'm glad my skills are finally getting recognition
[0:00:00] Tree__Beard: 1221 2211
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: they rightfully deserve
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: I know so skilled
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: yea trees teams
[0:00:00] MegA_LuZ: 477 ping
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: yes we know
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: he is lagger
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: gogo
[0:00:18] [Awing]Raphiel: so much better
[0:00:25] Tree__Beard: fucking trade feds
[0:00:37] [Awing]Raphiel: 2
[0:00:40] [SWG]_RvA_: 3
[0:00:44] [SWG]_RvA_: fal
[0:02:01] [SWG]_RvA_: it spikes
[0:02:20] [SWG]_RvA_: 4 nerf
[0:02:58] Tree__Beard: 1 falump?
[0:03:35] [SWG]_RvA_: dew also
[0:05:06] [Awing]Raphiel: rapa wing
[0:06:16] [SWG]_RvA_: quite laggy
[0:08:04] [Awing]Raphiel: any1 wallin
[0:08:56] [SWG]_RvA_: cal wing
[0:10:36] [SWG]_RvA_: will pocket
[0:13:33] MegA_LuZ: im going fast 4
[0:13:41] [Awing]Raphiel: no
[0:17:51] [Awing]Raphiel: where is sy
[0:18:45] [SWG]_RvA_: cal not rushing
[0:22:19] [SWG]_RvA_: sy 2 air
[0:23:00] [Awing]Raphiel: any holos
[0:23:12] [SWG]_RvA_: holos
[0:24:12] [SWG]_RvA_: 100 air on me
[0:27:24] [SWG]_RvA_: cal will prolly t4 again
[0:27:44] [Awing]Raphiel: ya havent seen anything from him
[0:27:57] [SWG]_RvA_: u t4 soon
[0:28:05] [Awing]Raphiel: 2
[0:28:09] [Awing]Raphiel: need food
[0:28:13] [Awing]Raphiel: like 500
[0:28:16] [Awing]Raphiel: and im good
[0:29:27] [Awing]Raphiel: lol
[0:29:27] [SWG]_RvA_: kek
[0:29:46] <All>[SWG]_RvA_: why are you such a faggot
[0:29:49] [SWG]_RvA_: percent
[0:30:54] [Awing]Raphiel: 50
[0:31:52] [Awing]Raphiel: stronk
[0:32:39] [SWG]_RvA_: whatu need
[0:32:46] [Awing]Raphiel: not
[0:33:46] [SWG]_RvA_: jedi maybe
[0:33:49] Tree__Beard: gonna have many strikes
[0:33:51] [SWG]_RvA_: been too long
[0:33:52] Tree__Beard: slow as fuck
[0:34:29] [SWG]_RvA_: holo
[0:36:12] [SWG]_RvA_: here we go
[0:39:05] [SWG]_RvA_: yeh will need air eventually
[0:39:22] [SWG]_RvA_: but if ure doing more dmg than cal its fine
[0:39:24] Tree__Beard: open gate
[0:40:46] [SWG]_RvA_: yeah id whyt
[0:44:00] [Awing]Raphiel: shot
[0:44:21] [SWG]_RvA_: shot what
[0:45:27] [SWG]_RvA_: going troops will need air supp
[0:45:49] [Awing]Raphiel: mega u good
[0:45:55] [Awing]Raphiel: just make air for him
[0:46:13] [SWG]_RvA_: lots of air
[0:46:13] MegA_LuZ: 1
[0:46:17] [SWG]_RvA_: mega will fail
[0:46:35] [Awing]Raphiel: i gotta deal with sy
[0:48:55] MegA_LuZ: i will make jedi
[0:50:31] Tree__Beard: building SP
[0:50:52] [Awing]Raphiel: hope ur building help tree
[0:51:12] [SWG]_RvA_: tree help raph

[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: you realised we played a game before with it and it worked
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: so it cannot be the patch
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: to dense
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: too*
[0:00:00] Tree__Beard: 1121 1222
[0:00:00] Rapatap: you know what stability is right?
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: yeah I guess
[0:00:00] Rapatap: means it works intermittantly
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: yeah obviously
[0:00:01] [Awing]Raphiel: son
[0:00:01] [Awing]Raphiel: rebs again
[0:00:09] [SWG]_RvA_: my guess his AV removed it
[0:00:31] [SWG]_RvA_: it showed as not installed in lobby before
[0:00:52] [Awing]Raphiel: food?
[0:00:52] [SWG]_RvA_: and yet the idiot blames the patch
[0:00:56] Tree__Beard: confed bb
[0:01:03] Tree__Beard: just muja so far
[0:01:12] [SWG]_RvA_: falum
[0:04:00] [SWG]_RvA_: only 1 right
[0:04:08] [Awing]Raphiel: 1
[0:04:21] [Awing]Raphiel: just got mine lol
[0:04:30] [Awing]Raphiel: was hidden
[0:04:44] Tree__Beard: just 1 here
[0:04:55] Tree__Beard: infinitey miles from CC, took forever to find
[0:06:01] Tree__Beard: i'm right by Will
[0:06:12] Tree__Beard: I'm gonna get him
[0:06:20] [Awing]Raphiel: get him
[0:06:40] [SWG]_RvA_: extra berries
[0:06:43] [SWG]_RvA_: gonna grab
[0:06:50] Tree__Beard: t2 mounteds or just right to geos?
[0:06:59] [Awing]Raphiel: mounts
[0:07:08] [SWG]_RvA_: t1*
[0:07:48] [Awing]Raphiel: wait
[0:07:52] [Awing]Raphiel: hes walling
[0:07:58] [Awing]Raphiel: but its light wall
[0:08:03] [Awing]Raphiel: so u can bust it
[0:08:58] [Awing]Raphiel: holos?
[0:09:02] Tree__Beard: mounts it will be
[0:09:18] Tree__Beard: ur gonna have to save me from cal tho
[0:09:26] [Awing]Raphiel: i will son
[0:09:30] Tree__Beard: he is will pocket
[0:10:55] [SWG]_RvA_: sy
[0:11:05] [SWG]_RvA_: teks wing
[0:12:59] [Awing]Raphiel: any holos near
[0:13:09] Tree__Beard: none here
[0:13:09] [SWG]_RvA_: i see none
[0:16:25] [SWG]_RvA_: rap
[0:19:20] [Awing]Raphiel: son
[0:19:52] [SWG]_RvA_: sy strikes
[0:19:56] [Awing]Raphiel: whats will making
[0:20:09] The_Rack_Tek: onmy+
[0:20:12] Tree__Beard: nothing
[0:20:15] [Awing]Raphiel: fort going up
[0:20:26] [SWG]_RvA_: x
[0:20:37] [Awing]Raphiel: x wat
[0:20:49] [SWG]_RvA_: talking to wing
[0:20:59] The_Rack_Tek: ths
[0:21:23] Tree__Beard: fighter
[0:21:53] [Awing]Raphiel: get his pc
[0:22:00] The_Rack_Tek: thx+
[0:22:41] [Awing]Raphiel: good
[0:22:45] [Awing]Raphiel: ill kill the air
[0:22:49] [Awing]Raphiel: keep hittin
[0:25:38] Tree__Beard: forting on will
[0:26:28] Tree__Beard: surrender incoming
[0:27:02] [SWG]_RvA_: spr
[0:27:06] [SWG]_RvA_: spdr
[0:29:00] Tree__Beard: cal gonna t4
[0:29:08] [Awing]Raphiel: sling me
[0:29:21] [Awing]Raphiel: just need food
[0:29:22] [SWG]_RvA_: watch his score
[0:29:38] [Awing]Raphiel: its too low alrdy
[0:29:47] [Awing]Raphiel: hes prolly on his way
[0:30:39] [SWG]_RvA_: sentry here
[0:31:14] [SWG]_RvA_: get sight upg too
[0:32:34] [SWG]_RvA_: percent
[0:32:41] [Awing]Raphiel: 65
[0:32:51] [Awing]Raphiel: hes so gay
[0:33:03] [SWG]_RvA_: what will u need
[0:33:09] [Awing]Raphiel: nova
[0:33:13] [Awing]Raphiel: carb
[0:33:50] [Awing]Raphiel: nova
[0:33:51] [Awing]Raphiel: now
[0:34:02] [SWG]_RvA_: all i got
[0:34:48] [Awing]Raphiel: im good
[0:36:57] [SWG]_RvA_: focus mds

[0:00:00] Tree__Beard: 1212 1122
[0:00:00] SY_2min: me toco la galactia
[0:00:00] SY_2min: no puede ser :(
[0:00:00] SY_2min: mi favorita
[0:00:00] SY_2min: ahora ver cual me toca
[0:00:00] SY_2min: pffff
[0:00:00] Rapatap: but trade feds better

[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: stu
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: t1
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: sy
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: equipo 1
[0:00:00] SY_2min: y , lo ?
[0:00:00] Rapatap: 1212 1122
[0:00:00] SY_2min: will ?
[0:00:00] Rapatap: enough space?
[0:00:00] Lord_WillChene: 1212 1122
[0:00:00] SY_2min: x in
[0:00:00] Tree__Beard: lol will's game closed out
[0:00:00] [Awing]Raphiel: 10x easier to read
[0:00:00] SY_2min: ?
[0:00:00] Rapatap: lord's game closed
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: boot him
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: boot him so he can rejoin faster
[0:00:00] Rapatap: not sure why it shows him in here still
[0:00:00] MiriamNervo: so he can rj
[0:00:00] [SWG]_RvA_: inb4 rip tek
[0:00:00] Tree__Beard: inb4 phone
[0:00:00] SY_2min: lol
[0:00:00] Tree__Beard: lol
[0:00:00] Rapatap: lkmao
[0:00:06] [Awing]Raphiel: rebs son
[0:00:15] Tree__Beard: confed lol
[0:00:33] [SWG]_RvA_: 2 nerf
[0:00:33] [Awing]Raphiel: 4
[0:00:33] <All>Tree__Beard: will's game closed lmao
[0:00:33] <All>Rapatap: Lord's game closed lamo
[0:00:33] <All>[SWG]_RvA_: maybe booting him wasn't too bad of an idea
[0:00:33] <All>Rapatap: RvA's patch doesn't seem to agree with him
[0:00:33] [SWG]_RvA_: see it saves anyway